English subtitles available.
About Vordenkleistung, the emotional and the rational and "making sense".
A transcript of this video can be found further down on this page.
2017-06-28
English subtitles available.
English subtitles by Oskar Henke with the help of Christian Neppl.
A transcript of this video can be found further down on this page.
2019-01-13
With the invention of digital image editing software programs like Photoshop, the world was carpet-bombed with mirages. The steering heads of the bombs were aimed primarily at women. The goal was to root the idea that you simply don't look good the way you are. That you need to give yourself a boost. It's easy on the computer, but in the real world, you need products. And there is a vast industry that produces them. It's an industry that lives off of giving people the feeling that they need to improve themselves; that they're not good enough the way they are.
Men, of course, are also willing customers of this industry. Through this cultural phenomenon, people do not only lose money. They are even sacrificing part of their life span, spending it standing in front of the mirror.
However, this phenomenon is relatively easy to see through. Anyone who has spent time with real people knows what real people actually look like.
Now I'm getting to another phenomenon, one that is perhaps somewhat difficult to see through: the internet is full of people who can do great things. It is also full of people who explain these great things in tutorials. While it's clear to most that being able to do a double backflip from standing is an extraordinary skill, other things are more subtle. I notice this repeatedly when people tell me that they can't do this or that yet, or that they should be able to do it, or that they are limited in something. Often I think, "nobody really needs to be able to do that" or "actually, you're fine".
On the internet, people with special abilities are highlighted. Maybe it has something to do with the algorithms; who knows. In any case, the extraordinary is often made ordinary here. But as I said, this can often be difficult to recognize. That's also because we understand so little about movement in this world. Yes, certain things are definitely possible through exercise for a wide range of the population, but how necessary are they? Other things which some people on YouTube do with ease and which are perhaps considered normal by some communities are difficult or impossible for the general population to achieve. So: stay calm. Everything is fine.
Just because something is normal on the internet doesn't mean it's really normal or necessary.
So what do I really need to be able to do?
To answer this question, you need a goal or a direction to orient by.
Needing to be able to do something "because it is normal" is not a meaningful reason. Similarly, it is not a meaningful reason to need to be able to do something in order to be extraordinary.
That is shallow.
But if the reader sees it differently, that's fine with me. Those are just my thoughts. The above are, in my opinion, not good goals.
A powerful goal, I feel, is to ask: "what do I need in order to assume responsibility in this world", or "what do I need in order to avoid unnecessary suffering in myself and others". Or "what do I need so that I can take care of others and myself". And, last but not least, on a lighter note, I can of course also ask: "What do I feel like doing, what do I want to spend my time doing, what inspires me?".
So: listen to yourself instead of looking too much at what others are doing. Sometimes you forget that everything is actually alright. You see someone driving a Porsche and you think you need a new car. You have to examine which of the things you think you need to do or be able to do are really important for you, and in which areas you make your life unnecessarily difficult because you believe you have to be different. (As a bonus, then you don't have to spend so much time in front of the mirror).
If you're doing well, you're doing well.
You can also just sit down and do nothing for a while. It's just, unfortunately, neither normal nor extraordinary.
Joseph Bartz
Translation: Oskar Henke
05.03.2021
Hello and welcome, dear children,
to the daily news at 2:57.MEZ.
Today we will focus on the topics of
Vordenkleistung finding meaning,
meaning and the cognitive dissonance of meaning, meaningfulness finding meaning rationality vs emotionality and so on and so forth.
And whatever else comes to mind.
Here we have the starting point: young men between the age of 20 to 35 who tell me about their training goals, despite me not asking for them. As I generally don’t ask about it. They tell me their training goals for example when I’m writing a training plan for them.
And now for the peculiar part:
these goals are always the same.
Everyone has the same goals.
Which is why I usually don’t ask.
Because these goals
don’t usually stem from the persons own thinking,
from their own inner processes,
but rather from the Vordenkleistung
which is the influence of previous thinkers, “Vordenkern” or the people we tend to call experts these days.
So when we consider that there’s this Movement Culture,
this movement of movement,
and there’s some kind of vague consensus regarding what it contains.
So when new people get involved with
this kind of training and
try to take in what it’s all about,
they get primed in a certain way
and feel like they get it:
Ah, the goals of this culture,
way of thinking,
game or whatever we call it are this and this.
This Vordenkleistung thus get passed down from
the people that are high in the hierarchy
of this training mentality,
idea or whatever we call it.
Let’s take for example
the Muscle-up,
or the one arm chinup or whatever strength based
goal that is easy to show online.
Many young men entering the training are primed
by seeing these things:
they know it’s what people in this community do.
So they do for example strength training on the rings
with the understanding that for example the muscle-up
can be a short term goal,
or that the one arm chinup can be a long term goal.
The OAC seems to be a goal for a lot of people:
80 % of young men seem to set this as a goal
in this culture
based on no evidence except my observation
over the years on
what people tell me they want to achieve
This isn’t all that big of a problem
in the sense that it doesn’t become a problem
until the aforementioned high-ranking people
don’t recognize or accept their responsibility.
As an example I would like to bring up
all the people I’ve met at workshops during the years
who tell me that they’re not satisfied
with what they pass on in their teachings.
For example there’s the trainer
who works in a fitness studio,
a franchise fitness studio,
as an under-paid, suicidal personal trainer
who has to teach things like
very machine-focused training
but himself is somewhere else
in his thinking and his own training.
For example doing more open movement training
like gymnastics strength training or
improvisational stuff or whatever.
So this discrepancy arises:
this person is somewhat mentally somewhere else,
where the typical fitness studio member isn’t:
they are instead primed by the fitness studio mentality.
It’s an error of thinking to believe
that someone can join a fitness studio
and resist its influence:
as I enter, I open myself up to it’s mentality.
Here people train with machines,
there’s a specific way of working here,
this is the rep range,
or people only do half reps
or they look this and that way
and drink this and that, etc.
This is all dictated by Vordenkern,
like glossy magazines,
funny youtubers sitting at their tables,
it can even be dictated
by the representatives of the mentality,
like the machines or by extension
the people who designed them.
What stands before me is the machine,
and it will prime me in a certain direction.
So say I work as a trainer in a studio
where the influences are on a kind of collision course.
There’s machine-based training,
but a trainer who has differing ideas.
Thus arises a kind of dissonance,
which is resolved by many trainers by saying
“oh well, this is what the trainee wants,
so that’s what I’ll show”,
instead of showing them the stuff the trainer
has a genuine passion for.
This is a moment when I become inauthentic.
Loosing my authentiti … authenticiciwizity.
I pass on my responsibility
to someone who isn’t really in a position to take it in.
The trainee can only be held responsible to a degree:
the trainer needs to take responsibility
also for what the trainee wants.
For this reason, as i mentioned initially,
asking people what their goals are
is a waste of time.
It’s psychologically almost like a ruse:
I go, “yes, tell me your goals, I’m listening”,
but in the end I already know what they’ll say,
and I also know these goals will change:
in four weeks the goals will change to these things
in a year it will change this way
and so on and so forth,
In ten years one has completely different goals,
since the influences have changed
along with the training itself.
The person responsible here is not only
the one who comes and wants to train,
but also the person giving the training,
the teacher in charge.
And it needs to be figured out
who has what amount of responsibility.
If I’m the person who’s already did the Vordenkleistung,
and I reject responsibility,
there could be
potential issues.
Maybe I remain in a situation
I don’t want to remain in,
and maybe neither of us want to remain here.
Both trainer and trainee might be happier
if I accept the responsibility as a Vordenker,
and just say:
“okay, we’ll do it this way,
I won’t surrender to what’s trending
or what the market wants.
I have the responsibility
and I take the responsibility.
I work with people,
I believe this thing I’m doing,
I believe this here to be right,
therefore.
I pass this on”.
It’s very important to be authentic in this way.
These days, even here in Berlin,
this is a big topic,
because these days people don’t just sell bread,
they sell lovingly made bread.
It means, and it is important,
that the person making the bread
also likes to eat it.
It’s not just baking bread and not eating it yourself
but baking bread, eating bread, selling bread.
From this supposition I shift the topic
in the direction of stating
that there’s a discrepancy in
rational thinking,
and to what happens with people
as they rationalize things.
This has a lot to do with
the aforementioned topic:
meaningfulness.
I’m not talking about
a metaphysical meaningfulness.
Sascha Fast has a great video on that topic:
It’s called “Sinn finden” I believe.
I use his distinction to an extent,
as it resonates with me.
There’s the metaphysical
“what’s the meaning of life”,
the unsolvable riddle that
the universe doesn’t seem to answer.
Thus, engaging with that subject
is doomed to result, at best, in a theory.
But what I can find,
is what makes sense for me,
what grants me meaning.
On a larger scope things
like certain moral codes,
or missions or whatever.
Maybe I want to help other people,
or I want to be happy,
or I want make sure life on earth can continue,
regardless of whether I mean human life
or life in general.
This kind of meaning
I can possibly find for myself.
Now i’d like to shift focus onto a smaller thing:
the sayings “that makes sense”,
or “that makes no sense”.
These are saying that we use a lot in our lives.
Sascha gives a nice example, that
I’ll mention here so you don’t have to watch that video.
The example is:
when I need to take a shit,
I go to the toilet.
It makes sense. Done.
When I’m
hungry, I eat.
Makes sense.
But, in contrast: When I’m hungry,
I don’t eat,
in order to strengthen my spirit
or my body.
Makes sense.
Good.
It makes sense, because there’s a kind of causality in effect. Respectively, what often makes sense for us is if it leads to something.
Then we get to the expression
“that makes no sense at all”.
As in when I do something that doesn’t lead anywhere.
It’s a weird loop, a job for Sisyphos,
who’s the original metaphor
for the meaningless
and the absurd.
Sisyphos rolls a boulder up the mountain,
but at the top is inevitably rolls back down,
so Sisyphos has to roll it up again
whereupon the boulder rolls down again,
and so on and so forth.
That we would call a situation that makes no sense.
It makes no sense to us.
But it often happens,
that things seem as if they make no sense,
which causes an emotional reaction
that we then rationalize.
Let’s say for example,
I choose what I want to train.
I might see something,
let’s say Zumba,
that doesn’t make sense to me.
As soon as I encounter Zumba
I have an emotional reaction, one of rejection,
and after this reaction
I’ll attempt to rationalize it.
I have this adverse emotional reaction
and now I think about how to justify it.
That I find Zumba shitty because
it doesn’t lead anywhere,
that it’s just entertainment,
that I can’t see any room for progression and so on.
Bla, bla, bla, bla, bla.
I’ve rationalized my feeling.
The thing is,
this rationalized feeling
can lead one astray,
which has happened to me a lot
and it always, always to happens to my students.
This has lead me to sometimes say, despite the fact
that we have a very open culture of discussion,
“that I don’t really care if you like this or not”.
We often discuss
how to approach new things and so on,
but this personal feeling,
this first reaction to something in uninteresting.
Especially in this kind of situation,
where the teacher made a decision.
If I trust the teacher,
I need to surrender trust to him.
Instead of listening to my initial response,
I need to wait and see what happens with time.
Later i can reflect back,
and maybe I’ll still think it was shit.
Which doesn’t mean that
this initial feeling necessarily is bad.
We need our emotional responses
and use them all the time
to get through life and do things.
Do I turn right or left?
Do I eat this or that?, and so on.
And afterwards I can rationalize it,
but if I need 20.000 years to make every tiny decision,
I won’t get anywhere.
But there is the learning situation where
I can easily fail to learn
if I follow my initial instinct.
On the other hand,
it can also be great to listen to it,
for everyone to always follow it.
I’ve still never been to a Zumba class.
That doesn’t mean that
I couldn’t learn something from zumba classes,
but through my experience,
which is an important factor:
having experience on that topic
to really trust your instincts.
If I have experience with the topic
I can better estimate the likelihood
of it being a good return on investment.
I’m likely right when I say,
“it’s wiser for me not to invest my time in Zumba,
but rather in something else
like climbing
or chopping wood”.
Now it’s like this:
One of the starting points for me
making this video
is that an interesting example
of this has come up. For example: Juggling
We recently started doing juggling,
and some people had strong reactions to it
“maybe” -höhöhö-
and said
“this makes no sense for me”.
And who are the people who say this?
The people who struggle with it.
No one, to whom juggling comes easy, will say that
about juggling,
at least not in my experience.
Of course it happens,
but I haven’t seen it.
The people who say “that makes no sense”
are the people struggling.
I know this reaction from myself,
it stems from a feeling I have, telling me
“this is shit! It’s no fun. I’m not progressing”.
So if I have a teacher who makes sure I continue,
and this teacher has a method - which is crucial -
he can bring me closer to it
and make sure that I make progress,
I will reach a point where I notice something happening,
at which point I’ll get a feel for the meaningfulness.
Of course it makes no sense
to say juggling makes no sense,
but insist that handstands do.
What about handstands makes more sense
than juggling?
One can rationalize it all one wants
find arguments for it,
but in endeffect it’s all just
Näh.
Which means, what happens is simply
that feelings play a role,
and in the moment where someone notices
“ah, I’m making progress,
now I’m getting something out of this”,
it’s suddenly possible to see,
“this has happened.
Now I can juggle three balls,
and I can catch balls differently
if someone throws them to me”.
Or that I can use my vision differently,
that I can focus on something
and at the same time notice what’s happening
in the room and so forth.
10.000 different things can happen there.
Or I simply consider it a meditative task
through which I reach certain head spaces
and feel “wow, this makes so much sense”.
Super.
Great.
But sometimes,
or frankly often - and to an extent it’s the task of the teacher,
to take this responsibility
make sure the student goes through this conflict
of going from “this makes no sense for me currently”
which actually means “this is difficult for me.
I have an emotional aversion to it”.
This problem always comes up
Every time I’m forced to say
“trust. Just do it for now”,
or to explain the issue,
explain why you’re having this reaction.
And then, after two weeks,
after four weeks, or after six months:
Boom, oh sweet, this makes sense to me,
this is cool, I enjoy this.
As stated:
this is something that happens to everyone,
that happens to me all the time,
and if one’s aware that it’s happening,
one can rationalize in a different way.
Like “ah, this is just an emotional reaction.
Rationally I can see there could be something here,
I’ll do it,
even though right now
I have an aversion to it".
It doesn’t mean I always have to do it, though.
Of course I should do things
I enjoy,
and do that extensively,
but sometimes the things that will grant me great joy,
make my life better,
are hidden behind this wall I have to break through
this emotional wall
I have an objection against,
where I have a conflict.
As I said: that’s what a teacher is there for.
This is the basic, essential role of a teacher:
not just to have a method,
a didactic,
a path from A to B,
but also
to be able to guide someone from A to B
when he’s not necessarily on board
because his emotions and
his thinking controlled him
on a different path.
Then one will notice, “wow,
thanks for showing me this.
Thanks for opening my eyes”.
This is the meaning for the teacher.
The teacher needs to take over responsibility,
trust must be in place,
it needs to be resolved
who takes how much responsibility.
When this trust is in place,
the teacher can take responsibility for the students.
The teacher must not abuse this responsibility,
this is very, very important.
If the teacher abuses the responsibility,
the trust of his student,
all the potential
the potential.
THE potential good what might happen.
the potential good what might happen.
dissolves. By abusing the trust.
Because of this,
the responsibility of the teacher is huge.
He needs to be very aware,
and there needs to be constant communication
between him and the student,
so the student
can grow
in a sound way,
and so that an understanding can arise
that initial responses don’t
necessarily get to dictate the outcome.
So when the student comes in and says “I want to do this and this”, and the teacher brings him somewhere else, the student needs to be open to this. If he’s not open to it, no relationship can arise This often becomes clear quickly, in the beginning, how openly someone enters the door. There’s a feeling of resonating, or there isn’t.
So.
Good.
Thanks.
Bye.
The light. Not every power drill has it. But no advertising. Everything off. The videos are not sponsored and other companies make equally good power drills. Not only Japanese companies.
So welcome to this video, which is called:
“Vordenkleistung - Episode 2 - Attack of the Vordenkleistung”.
I did not want to do anything with it, just touch it for a moment.
So welcome to the second video
and I thought we could meet here again to talk. We being me, since nobody else is in the room, but alright.
What I want to talk about, the thematical hook so to speak, is something I’ve noticed here and there recently,
that problems arise, or that people have problems with their practice when their
practice is too results-oriented, or even results-oriented at all. Maybe it’s a symptom of the Zeitgeist. Zeitgeist, another word that you can not translate.
So if the subtitles are here,
or rather down here, translated by Oskar, then Oskar already tried.
[Zeitgeist means “time ghost”, or more often “the spirit of the era”. Cheers /Oskar.].
There’s no good translation. So maybe this is a symptom of the Zeitgeist,
that expresses itself in every age group,
be it 20 or 50. All age groups, 20 to 50, there are no
other ages below or above those. Well, of course there are. [german thinking break] In fact even more.
Let’s get to the point. It’s consistent through all these age classes,
that people keep having the problem that they are
simply too results-oriented, let’s say. Meaning that they have
difficulties, because along with results-orientation comes
comparison to others. Because these results are always
results compared to others. Now I arrived at comparison, now I have
sort of explained my logic with a kind of circuit. That wasn’t
all that clean, but maybe nobody noticed.
So let’s say there are some…
exercises or something, and people do these exercises
and then reach certain goals, and then this is viewed as a goal.
This can be in strength training, but also in other things,
like acrobatics or climbing or what ever.
Everywhere, things are always being measured.
For example in Tricking, if you can
rotate several times around the axis, yxz-axis,
ß-axis [in Germany, jokes don’t need to be funny]
and
… I’m excited to see what you do with this, Oskar…
[silent moment of regret for the joke]
and whoever rotates more is cooler, or whatever. And in climbing
there are the different grades, and strength training is measurable,
like how many repetitions one makes and how much weight and so on and so forth. And that is
a bit… or even completely… arbitrary.
For example, in strength training for the legs there is this thing that you aim for
2 times bodyweight Back squat, or 3 times bodyweight Deadlift.
And then you’re kind of good,
then you somehow belong to the higher level or something, or if you are really hardcore
it just means you actually do strength training, or something like that.
The question is why 2 times body weight and not 1.31117652 times. Or right now I’m
seeing people post themselves bouncing a ball like
ta-ta-ta-ta-ta 100 times, two balls one hand 100 times. Yeah nice,
You did it. Now it’s unclear why it’s 100 times and not 99 or why
100 is enough and not 101 or something. It’s just very arbitrary, 100, yes it’s 10 times 10.
So I have 10 fingers, that’s why we count to 10, most
cultures count to 10. Some do not. There are also those who count, for example, only to 7.
So 10 fingers and that 10 times, 100 somehow has such a certain clarity. So through
the anatomy of my hands it’s provided how many times I should do an exercise?
and then I am done with it and then I’ll go to the next one.
Yes.
I think if I say that, then the joke is already clear.
So, if I’m doing 85 or 125, who cares? What would that even do?
There’s a lot of value
in all these exercises, but me doing a certain amount of repetitions
doesn’t mean that I’ve somehow gotten everything from it.
What does that mean anyway: Results? What did you do?
It’s what’s measurable. Lots of things get left out.
So I can say for example, I do strength training. So, good, 2 times body weight back squat.
Yes, there are other things that
I can resultivize . Maybe I spend my whole time in strength training
talking and joking, and have a great time with other people.
I could measure that too. How good of a time am I having, with some measurement app. really good. With friends or people
5. 5 good time had. Well done, good time had. With friends.
Or not even friends, even just people.
It can’t always be friends. It can be people. A good time with people.
It’s great. Just strength training, good time with people.
Why something else? Doesn’t have to be.
We have these four things: Contemplating the why-question.
I could link that here now, but I do not because it is too exhausting for me.
You can look it up yourself, there I list what are the “why” questions.
But regardless, Just have a good time,
or maybe what I’m here for is to just gain a certain
feeling somehow. The “pump”. Pump is cool too. Strength training, the pump is great, right?
Or just on a somatic level. Not visible from the outside, simply
happening inside me. Quite a lot of things, I discover a lot of things. And if I am
pressing 2 times body weight this high or not… is it called pressing?
To push? To press? I do not know.
Yes, that’s great. You can measure. It’s one thing. There are still
many other things like that. The question is how much to focus on it,
whether you “succeeded” or not.
Like if you can do the splits or not.
And then some people have difficulties too if they can’t do something
because they have a physical limitation.
For example, some
people are simply not so bendable in the spine, and they just can’t gain
the same bridge as someone else. Or ones hip is not built in a way
to safely go into a middle split.
Everyone is different.
For example, I have a problem
with pronating. If I go like this, most people can get the hand
horizontal, I only get to here. I can’t really change that, it’s just like that.
Yes, it is also a shame, but it really does not matter.
Basically doesn’t affect my life at all, because I am somehow
still able to do things. Oh well. But if you are very results-oriented
and compare yourself to other people then … then you often compare yourself with
what you see on Youtube and on Youtube, the exceptional will always be pushed.
There are people who spend their whole time doing a certain exercise,
and then they show the exercise on Youtube and look amazing.
Well, it’s cool that they do that. I can just look at that
and say, “Hey, that’s awesome, it’s cool that they do that. ”
And have no feeling at all of “Ah yes, I can not do that. ”
Nobody cares. But if you have this stress factor that all humans have,
that you live this Vordenkleistung thing so much so that you take in what others do too much,
and you place too much importance on that,
it can become difficult.
Yes, especially if the comparison is always with specialists, who
do it professionally, whereas you only do it in your spare time.
I think if you can get away from it, away from the thought that the important thing is to get a result,
and instead simply do, without being so results-oriented,
simply do and be in it,
that’s really the first exercise, and once you reach that point, you can begin.
But if we were that strict, it would mean that a lot of people
couldn’t begin at all. And it is of course not wrong to have a goal.
Not at all, because a goal provides a bit of a direction to what I do.
But hanging on too tightly to the goal
especially if the goal is set in comparison to others,
if this factor is at play - now I remember what I really wanted to say:
that if this stress factor of “other people” is present,
actually the biggest stress factor in life is other people.
Yes, it is the biggest stress factor these days. There are no lions here with me
in the room. Also not outside here. No wild animals here. Nothing. Cars,
sure, you can get run over. There are people inside the cars too though. A big stress factor
is other people, living together with other people and
if I bring that factor with me to my practice and try to do it like others do it,
and I have to do that and that and that
so that I somehow achieved something or belong to something or whatever,
it’s just the capitalist way of thinking.
Basically, this idea
that one is always evolving and always does a wide spectrum of things,
is a Zeitgeist idea. Sometimes you also have to address
the elephant in the room, - such a stupid translation from English…
It totally suits the times. There’s nothing extreme about the thought, because it
is what is in demand today. There’s always this whole startup
Silicon Valley thing that is so disruptive in the workplace, that ensures
you have a constant lifelong learning process, you’re constantly evolving, changing jobs,
that you no longer have this CV that reads: I have my vocation,
and it’s what I do, and I work in this business or at a university or something.
But it’s always boom boom boom boom switching between things. You do not get any
longer term contracts, you need to constantly evolve and develop further, and
this kind of movement practice where you do so many different things,
and are always developing in a wide array of fields,
not specializing, matches it. It fits perfectly.
-Now I will stop using anglicisms - It fits exactly.
What doesn’t really fit
anymore is this old thing, this gym thing, that one
goes to a gym and does the same thing and learns nothing, but rather
just mindlessly does something. It doesn’t really suit the times anymore.
In that sense, it’s no grand revolt to do that, but rather it’s
the Zeitgeist, it’s following along with the times. But following the times also means
that it is all about what you can achieve and so on and so forth.
And the revolt starts here now, when you say you’ll do it all,
but it’s no longer results-oriented, it is simply the process. We just do.
Not even necessarily the process but simply doing, and then the process comes, and
Out of the process comes the result, but it’s not about the result.
Meaning that when it’s all about achieving something, this or that cool exercise or trick,
Trick or whatever, and then I am playing the game that
is being played all the time. And then you will quickly get frustrated. The people who are
result-oriented like that grow frustrated faster,
and give up faster. And there the practice is not yet mature enough.
Look, when I’m learning an instrument,
I will not after two months go: Oh well, it’s kind of exhausting and progress
is slow and it is already frustrating. Yeah well, that’s the way to learn to play an instrument.
It doesn’t happen over the course of a day.
Of course, it’s difficult. It can take ten years
or something. Nonsense sentence. It requires time until,
well, nothing. It also needs no time, because I can also make music straight away.
I can make music straight away, and it is
also just fine. And after 10 years I simply make different music than I do after one day.
But if I look at concert pianists and then notice
ah, I’m not there yet after two weeks…
I’ll probably never reach that because they started
playing the piano at age 4 and at 20 they’d already played 20,000 hours of piano
But that’s not the point. That’s not the point. Those are
exceptions that I could only use as references for myself if I would have been in the same situation.
Very few people started practicing the piano for four hours per day at age 4.
Yes.
That’s why it’s called Vordenkleistung - Episode 2. Because it’s a bit like
in Star Trek, not being so result-oriented.
In star trek, they fly through space with their star destroyer.
Captain Picard. And they simply fly around. Is it called flying in space? They are simply
on the way.That’s Star Trek. They are on the way and then things happen and then
things are done. They meet a new group or
a new planet or the Borg or something like that. Or these Q types. Or who else is there? There are many more
people they can meet there. You meet them, and you check, what is this then,
how does it work with you, how does it work for us, you figure it out
and then it’s like, yes ok cool now onwards. Go onwards!
That too can not be translated because it’s so German. German joke from Hamburg.
So that’s Star Trek. Because of that, I think it’s good if
we call what we do “Starship Enterprise” or “Star Trek” now.
Simply-yes - it’s great. spaceship Enterprise, I think that’s good. (laughs)
We just do Spaceship Enterprise. People always ask what we are doing, what’s it called?
Yeah well, I do not know exactly. It’s just like that. We do … Proc. Proc, that could also be the name.
I wanted to say process, but then I changed my mind. No, not a good name.
Yeah, there’s no real name. We do different things. That are all someone
one thing… or something. But Star Trek. Star Trek. That’s actually a really good summary.
Starship Enterprise. Anyway, it’s a great utopia
that they have. They no longer work for money and so, everyone has everything. Is in the
Basically “universal basic income”. Unconditional basic income. Exactly.
Great.
So if the practice can - because the potential is there -
to create something positive, some new on a societal plane.
Not just being pulled along in the currents of the old.
But rather taking a positive step, and being a peaceful practice.
And not like this: “äääh, You do this and I do that and that’s a lot better
than what he does and he’s such a…”
And it has great potential when it is not about comparing
but rather about doing and experiencing together.
and sharing and so on and so forth.
Yes. Yes. Progress. Progress progress progress. It does not have to be. Can also simply be
“so. Here. Now”. Zack. Mania. Progress mania. Progress mania.
Progress mania. Progress mania. Progress mania. Progress mania.
Mania. Progress mania. Progress mania.
Good. Yes, I do not know who is still watching. Is always difficult
because not so much happens for the people. Not much is happening here
in the video. I already said everything,
but somehow it still has to ebb out.
Ebb out in a contemplative way.
Sometimes people say “ah with this I made good progress”
or “I have not progressed so well.”
Even the people for whom I do online support, who I make training plans for, and I wonder:
I do not know if you can really say that.
Maybe one often doesn’t feel where progress has been made, where
something has happened. With some things you can see or measure it easily. For example,
with a back squat or the ball thing or so. For other things you can’t. Or
you do not even know what to measure.
What is
this progress really? I said it earlier. and now again because it is somehow …
Yes, what is this progress? Progress in what?
The most obvious things, or are there maybe many other levels
where you can do something?
Good. Super. Hey, I believe, Star Trek. Super. Great, but not the
Voyager-thing because there they want to go back to earth i believe. They are
Somehow, they are very far away in gamma, beta quadrant. I do not remember anymore. And they
want to go back to earth and it’s really far. quite far. Ah yes, they are thrown away like that.
They’ll have to find a wormhole and thus go back because the
regular way back would take like a 1000 years or so because they are so far away.
They have a clear goal then. I think in that situation that’s fine.
I can understand that. They have such a clear goal, back to Earth and such. But in
a philosophical sense, it’s not all that interesting. It’s not
an utopian situation, starship Voyager.
Yes. That’s why Enterprise is in that sense better. Space Patrol Enterprise.
Well. Well. I’ll continue. Ah, you always have to secure. Important. OK.
Thanks for listening and see you later.
Joseph Bartz 01.03.2021